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Student DMK leader who was one among the leaders of Anti-Hindi agitation of 1965 , later announced the inception of Anna DMK on October 18 th 1972.Left Anna DMK within 3 months joined DMK back and fought emergency.Went into self imposed political exile in 1978.Lauched Dravida Peravai as political party and registered with Election Commission in 1996.

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Search Ram First before Searching for Ram’s Bridge
Published on October 20th, 2007 In Parties, Politics |  Views 1682

Search Ram first before

Searching for Ram"s Bridge

Thu, 2007-05-10 02:10

Nandhi Varman - General Secretary Dravida Peravai

The BJP and its policies based on a mythical hero with no relevance to people"s issues is a mirage chase. A mirage which BJP cannot reach to quench its thirst for power. Hue and cry over non existent Ram"s bridge had been catapulted into a matter of national debate. Dravida Kazhagam, the parent body of all major and minor Dravidian political parties including Dravida Peravai had done the logically correct thing to counter the propaganda of falsehoods unleashed by the forces of fascism.

Paula Richman wrote a book titled “Many Ramayanas" Yes the question before us is to accept which Ramayana as true story?. Vishwa Hindu Parishad is not ready to accept truth or explore hidden truth or accept the multiplicity of Ramayana versions. That is fascism and nothing else. Paula Richman refers an incident in her book. “In 1993 the VHP destroyed an exhibition because it depicted the Jain Dasaratha Jathaga version of Rama and Seetha as siblings." Who could be the arbiter? Should anyone take the matter to International Court of Justice because it involves Ramayanas originating from different cultures and countries? Individuals cannot go to International Court of Justice. Some nation must take the matter to court, to prove its version of Ramayana as true history. Till the matter is decided, no question of resolving Ram"s birth place and Ram"s Bridge could be resolved or settled. First and foremost to be decided is which of the Ramayanas is true history?

Laos Ramayana: Buddha recited the story of Rama to his disciples, in Laos; they believe that the jataka tale to be tale of Buddha"s previous birth. There are two popular versions of Ramayana namely Phra Lak Phra Lam and Gvay Dvorahbi. According to these Ramayanas, Ravana is the nephew of King Dasarath. Rama while roaming in desert in search of Sita eats a fruit and becomes a monkey. [The biblical Adam and Eve"s story and its resemblance could also be taken note of] After becoming monkey Rama meets Nengsi, a woman turned into monkey and marries her. Hanuman is their son. After killing Ravana, Ram marries his widow.

Thai Ramayana: The earliest version of Ramakien dates back to 13 th century and Thais believe their version to be the original story. In Ramakien many places in Thailand have been identified with Ramayana episodes. The city of Ayutthaya i.e. Ayodhya has been mentioned as capital of the kingdom. Ramakien vividly describes the marriage of Hanuman. According to Thais, Hanuman had many affairs and children.

Jain Ramayana: According to historian D.N.Jha in Jain Ramayana it is Luxman who kills Ravana. Neither Ram, Luxman nor Hanuman is monogamous. Luxman has 16,000 wives while half that number Ram has, says D.N.Jha. “In Buddhist Ramayana Rama and Sita are siblings who later got married while in Jain Ramayana Rama has 8000 wives. Historian D.N.Jha links the monogamous Rama to the patriarchal society, a symptom of which is also Sita"s agnipariksha."

Cambodian Ramayana: Cambodian version “The Reamkher" states Ram as incarnation of Vishnu. Akaingameso which means God"s doorkeeper was reborn as Ravana. Sita, in her earlier birth was the wife of Indra, who was insulted by Ravana. To avenge the wrong she was born as Ravana"s daughter. Ravana was cautioned by his astrologer and brother Bibhek about his daughter"s evil birth. Ravana put her in a chest and buried her. King Janaka later discovered her. The Reamkher follows Valmiki episodes on Ram"s friendship with monkey chiefs and construction of the bridge. There is one important deviation. Sita gave birth to a son named Ramalaksha parented by Valmiki.One day she went to the river for a bath with her son when the sage was in deep meditation. After meditation Vamiki could not see his son, hence created another son by his yogic power and named him Jupalaksha.

These are some of the versions. BJP and VHP must first of all find out whether Sita is the wife of Valmiki ? They must find out whether Rama had 8000 wives, Lakshman had 16000 wives or Dasarathan had 60000 wives. The Ravana and Sita being father and daughter and the Rama and Sita being brother and sister, are existing stories in various cultures. We did not write these Ramayanas, and all Ramayanas are written by pious people and not atheists like me.

The Dravidian Movement took up cudgels against the Kamban"s version of Ramayana and the journal Kudi Arasu edited by Thanthai E.V.Ramasamy Periyar published series of articles by Chandrasekara Paavalar. Aringnar Anna challenged Tamil scholars to come for open one to one debate on the purpose of Kambaramayanam and its imposition on Tamils to subjugate them under Aryan Illusion.

Navalar Somasundara Bharathiar and Chollin Chelvar R.P.Sethu Pillai debated with Anna and openly admitted they have lost the debate. This debate in Tamil Book “Let Fire Spread" wants to illuminate Tamil hearts by symbolically burning Kamba ramayanam. Pulavar Kuzhanthai wrote Ravana Kavyam can be considered as Dravidian version of Ramayanam.

The question before us which of these versions is based on true historical facts. These are not days where everyone will accept anything with blind faith. If you place new facts to reopen a settled issue in history, you should place facts and prove it. Blind faith of BJP and VHP will not stand the scrutiny of the Age of Science.

Chinese had some truth to add to world"s history, yes they wanted to tell the world that their sons only discovered America and not Columbus. Gavin Menzies wrote a book: 1421 : The Year China Discovered America. The book states about the 7 expeditions by Admiral Zheng He between 1405 and 1423 with a fleet of 317 ships and 28,000 men. Chinese Government organized exhibitions, and the postal authorities of Hong Kong, Macao, Singapore, Malaysia and Thailand issued postage stamps commemorating Zhen He"s discovery. At a cost of 50 million dollars a Museum is being set up. If BJP and VHP had truth in their arsenal let them use it first. Lungpower alone will not establish truth. When they ruled India, BJP combine tried its best to use all money at its command to prove many falsehoods; ultimately they failed in all such adventures.

How Fast Do Monkeys Fly?

In October 2004, a lecture by Berkeley Professor R.P.Goldman titled “How fast do monkeys fly? How long do demons sleep" which took place in New Delhi is reported in the Times of India [Mumbai edition] dated Saturday October 30 2004. According to Dr.R.P.Goldman “ancient Sanskrit scholars who made intense study of Hindu mythological texts like Ramayana tried to rationalize several of the seemingly improbable tales like Ravana"s ten heads, or how fast Hanuman the monkey god could have flown to get the sanjivini or elixir, for Laksman or even how long Kumbakarna, Ravana"s brother, might have slept."

In order to apply the rationalist paint to the absurd story of Ravana having 10 heads, since none of the findings about extinct species have found a single 10 headed human fossil, they said that Ravana actually had one head and the other 9 were reflection on the large 9 polished gems that he wore around his neck. The success of rationalist movement compels scholars to spin new tales to justify foolish tales.

Another important question that these scholars raised was how long could Hanuman have taken to fly to the Himalayas to the Mahodaya Mountain to fetch the life giving herb for Laksmanan from Lanka, where the battle was raging? Goldman says that some of the scholars calculated that roughly at a speed of 660 kilometers per hour Hanuman flew, plucked the mountain, and flew back to Lanka. Then “Hanuman was quite ecologically conscious" the Professor R.P.Goldman states in order to save ecology Hanuman flew again back to Himalayas and pasted the plucked mountain with an adhesive still not found by scientists.

This is the scholarly research which BJP and VHP want us to accept. Can anyone with brain assimilate this research as proven scientifically and established beyond an iota of doubt? No one will swallow this foolish finding. Dravida Peravai wants BJP and VHP to prove all these impossible feats first before staking claim to Rama"s Bridge in Gulf of Mannar.

Rama"s Bridge

So far historians have found evidences that first human on Earth dates back to 60,000 years. Journey of Man by Spencer Wells which was also telecasted in National Geographic Channel claims that first human beings were from Africa. The book also claims that all humans are one; there exists a common gene named Sangene in all human beings. While writing about this book in my article titled Black Race and Brahma"s Face, I had written that these findings which prove human race is one is a severe indictment of a race that claims superiority among others and one which never accepts all humans as equals, thus people who claim to have born from Brahma"s face who built castles of lies in the name of varunasharadharma, have been proven to be totally unscientific and idiots claiming superiority on earth at the cost of fellow human beings,

The reason to state this is because in www.virtuallibrary.com of Srilanka claims:

“NASA Images Find 1,750,000 Year Old Man Made Bridge between India and Srilanka"

Under this title the Aryan lobby writes “In the 18 th incarnation of Lord Krishna, the Lord appeared as King Rama. In order to perform some pleasing work for the demigods, he exhibited superhuman powers by controlling the Indian Ocean and the killing of the atheist King Ravana, who was on the other side of the Sea"…. Srimad Bhagawatham, the site claims.

Let us examine the falsehoods one by one. We from the Dravidian Movement are atheists but not Ravana; all know that Ravana as per epics is a devotee of Lord Siva. The doubt which arises to me is why should a reincarnation of God perform superhuman deeds to impress demigods? Does it mean that Demigods are more powerful than the Original God on reincarnation?

How does God control Indian Ocean?

UNESCO had constituted an Intergovernmental Oceanographic Commission to undertake research of the Indian Ocean. This commission had not found yet anything that Gods did in Indian Ocean as per Srimad Bhagawatham. Well Dravida Peravai urges the Indian Government to refer the matter of Rama"s Bridge to this Intergovernmental Commission and if this commission says that there is no Rama"s bridge, will all BJP and VHP followers give up their religion and become atheists. Graham Hancock had written a book titles Underworld: The Mysterious Origins of Civilization.

In 1981 Daniel Behrman had written a book Assault on the Unknown. There are many books on Indian Ocean. All these books give us evidences on the continental drift, the submerged lands of the Lemuria, which Tamils prefer to call as the Kumari Kandam. The challenge posed by BJP and VHP must be accepted and we must use the National Institute of Oceanography to indulge in the study of under water archaeology to bring to light the great past of the Tamils. Tamil literature says 49 countries were lost to the seas, including River Kumari and River Pahruli. If Ramayana, an epic says Rama constructed a bridge and if that has to be probed, we Tamils demand that what all Tamil literature says about First and Second Tamil Sangams and the land loss to Tamil homeland namely Kumarikandam also should be studied.

In 2004 Dinamani Tamil Daily reported that in Bangalore a scientist Graham Cook displayed finds from the under water exploration he made near off the coast of Poompuhar, the Chozha Port and displayed video scenes of submerged Poompuhar and bdisplayed out 2000 artifacts from the Sea. Using carbon dating and other scientifically proven methodology in archaeology he said that the Poompuhar Civilization dates back to 7500 B.C. Tamils must be proud to have scientific evidence that pushes its civilization to an earlier period compared to Indus Valley Civilization. Instead of repeating like parrots that we have 2000 years of history, Tamil scholars must claim that we have a civilization which is 10,000 years old.

The probe BJP wants to undertake will only prove the Tamils past. It is well known fact that due to rise and fall of sea level both India and Srilanka got linked up in land 65,000 years ago, Before 27000 years due to rise in sea level India and Srilanka got separated. Around 17,000 years ago when sea level dropped both land masses joined and later parted. The study made by Trichirapalli Bharathidasan University Earth Sciences department states that before 1.4 million years sea was close to Madurai.

Before 90,000 years Chennai, Puducherry and Vedaranyam were surrounded by seas. We all know that global warming will result in rise in sea level and Tamilnadu coast will undergo changes. These are all natural phenomenon. When lands get linked and then gets separated sand domes will naturally be formed. Such domes could not be claimed as bridge. Contrary buildings exist beneath the seas near Poompuhar, where we can prove Tamil civilization,

Right from the beginning Srilanka had been conspiring to stall Sethusamudram project, and we all know the proposal by Srilanks to construct a bridge linking Srilanka and India, for which it gave an eye catching name Hanuman Bridge, perhaps to hoodwink the BJP. For argument sake if Hanuman Bridge had been constructed instead of Sethusamudram project will it not affect the Rama"s so called Mirage Bridge? Dravida Peravai opposed it by calling it a Berlin Wall across the Seas.

Now again with no economic programme in its arsenal BJP wants to use an emotional appeal, hence resorts to Ram"s bridge. But BJP conveniently forgets that Atal Bihari Vajpayee speaking in Indian Parliament in 1974 called Kachateevu as Valideep, where Rama fought Vali. Why BJP is silence on Valideep? Why they don"t want to reclaim Valideep? Loss of Kacchateevu results in out fishermen getting killed. Reclaiming Kachateevu is not in BJP"s agenda, but a Bridge is, what a mentality these fascist forces have ?

Nandhi Varman - General Secretary Dravida Peravai submitted this article for publication.

- Asian Tribune -

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18 Responses to “Search Ram First before Searching for Ram’s Bridge”
    1. indian Says:
    Posted on October 20th, 2007

    I am not sure whether Nandivarman even knows the meaning of the word “fascism”. The more I get the opportunity to read on Dravidian “leaders”, the more I get enlightened about their knowledge, political or otherwise, their intellectual capacity etc. I can only feel pity for the poor people of TamilNadu (oh! that includes me too)

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    2. ramarsetu Says:
    Posted on October 20th, 2007

    nandivarman you should first change your name to “erumai arasan”. Nandi is a sanskrit word which refers to the bull which Shiva rides. As a tamil fanatic atheist why do you still have a religious sanskrit name?

    It is a good idea to get a research body to investigate the Ramar bridge, but go tell that “Dravida Dhritrashtra” Karunanidhi that he should not demolish it so we can do some research!

    How come you never mentioned the periyar’s version of Ramayana known as “Ravana Kaviyam”? I hope you guys still read ravana kaviyam everyday. The irony is that even going by what your leader said Rama existed! What is even worse is that Ravana’s father was a brahmin and periyar accepted him as his hero, although he was anti-brahmin.

    Asian tribune is very advanced for you. They are not going to publish this long, directionless garbage.

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    3. soleswaran Says:
    Posted on October 20th, 2007

    I very much appreciate all these dravidian party members who are fighting for the welfare of Mr karunanidhi’s family. I don’t know who is getting benefited by such projects except Mr karunanidhi who will get his share of commision without any doubt.

    Earlier he opposed Lord Ram and now he is withdrawing all his remarks, inorder to implement sethusamudram project so that his soure of income won’t vanish away.

    So ultimately he is ready to compromise on his anti-hindu stand, inorder to safe guard his family income.

    If he spend that 2400-5000 crores in building industries,roads,basic ameneties in the state ,people wll see whether he is really spending them for those purpose, so using his master brain he introduced this new concept of govt project in ocean where people can’t go and see what is happening.

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    4. Vedaprakash Says:
    Posted on October 20th, 2007

    Nandi,

    You have no guts to face the challenge raised either in your controlled “Tamilarytchi” or in “Wordpress.com”.

    You have again vomitted the same thing as you did in the wordpress.com.

    Of course, you have made the corrections pointed out by us, here in this posting.

    I d not know how long you thrive on the knowledge of others.

    If you have courage, come on, respond here.

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    5. sridharsampath Says:
    Posted on October 20th, 2007

    Nandhivarman wants to know why BJP is fighting for Kachateevu or Valideep. Why can’t he ask the same question to MK? After all, he claims to control the State as well as the Central government.

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    6. sridharsampath Says:
    Posted on October 20th, 2007

    A correction to my earlier post - the first sentence should read ‘ …….why BJP is NOT fighting for Kachateevu……’ .

    Nandhivarman should realise that the Hindus in India subscribe, by & large, to the Valmiki version of the Ramayana. How can we be held responsible if people in Laos or Thailand follow a different version? This is absurd. In fact, he himself mentions about the Dravidian version of the Ramayana authored by Pulavar Kuzhanthai. This only proves that this is something about which the traditional Hindus can do nothing about.

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    7. MNachiappan Says:
    Posted on October 21st, 2007

    I re-post here what I have posted in response to the same stuff appearing in wordpress.com with mistakes, as Mr. Vedaprakash pointed out. Let us see how Nandi reacts or retreats.

    About the meeting at Salem, I would like to point out as follows:

    1. Anna took more than two hours, thus leaving no time to others.

    2. Moreover, the moment, Somasundara Bharathi started speaking, the crowd was booing at him and Sittaiyan, the friend of Bharathi, who compelled to bring him for the meeting felt very sad.

    3. Bharathi himself openly informed in his starting of his speech that he did not want to come there as Anna and others had already decided what they wanted to do.

    4. After bringing him booking ticket by train, Anna was speaking even after 8 pm on March 14, 1943. Therefore, Bharathi had no other way buyt to cut short his speech and catch the train as per his schedule.

    5. He exposed Anna of his authoritarian attitude and the hostile crowd.

    6. Therefore, nowhere Anna could win intellectually Bharathi or R. P. Sethupillai. With crowd-power, Anna wanted to shout down the debaters.

    7. Ironically, Ramachandra Chetti, the President of “Hindumatha Paripalana Nilayam” felt ashamed of Anna’s speech. As the crowd on that day was about to run riot, the organizers were afraid of the crowd and concerned about the safety of M/s. RPS and Srinivasan. That is why when Srinivasan started speaking, the crowd started showing their mob-behavior.

    M. Nachiappan
    omnachiappan@yahoo.com

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    8. MNachiappan Says:
    Posted on November 1st, 2007

    Another response appeaering in the same site:

    http://nandhivarman.wordpress.com/2007/05/07/before-human-race-evolved-ramas-bri dge-construction/

    on 24 May 2007 at 10:56 am4
    brahmallahchrist

    The responses are interesting.

    But, why the person challenged has been keeping quite is not known. His assertion, “Dravida Peravai challenges the contention and puts forward our views, which is open to debate, as we are rationalists, we will not run away from debate”, should have some response.

    At least, he should have read the sources once, before jumping to write something based on the secondary evidences.

    Criticism could be there and debate also, as they are not all new for the Indian tradition. But, the one initiated by Nandivarman appears to be malicious, venomous and blasphemous too.
    His posting filed under “Stateless Indians” proves that he has bent upon anti-Indian posture and it is not known what this posting has to with such anti-Indian attitude coupled with anti-Hindu.

    First of all, it is not known as to whether, he is writing such things from India or outside India.

    Anyway, since he has challenged, let us see that he would run away as he has asserted!

    Brahmallahchrist,
    A True Secularist.

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    9. tvvenkatesh Says:
    Posted on November 1st, 2007

    Well, I wonder, with such credentials like, being unable to answer, being unable to enter a debate et al, how was it possible for him to cling on to the post of Vice Chancellor of Azhagappa University.

    I am sure that by only “sombu-adichifying” MGR and MK successively, he was able to do this. There is absolutely no intellect in this man and hence his posts are not worth commenting, unless he comes out to either explain or defend himself.

    Thanks a lot Nachiappan for bringing this starking anamoly to the forefront

    Regards,
    Venkatesh

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    10. laadlabakdaas Says:
    Posted on November 1st, 2007

    Mr Nandi Varman wrote
    “The BJP and its policies based on a mythical hero with no relevance to people”s issues is a mirage chase”

    Even the political parties in the last 60 years have been of no relevance to majority of Indians who are poor and starving to death. Does that mean all the crooks and goons in different parties are gonna quit politics??? When ppl vote out successive governments its a signal to the politicians that they are of no relevance to the public.

    If Mr. Nandi Varman had any guts like any dravidian he must first denounce the creation of Pakistan based on Religion since Islam itself is of no relevance to anybody.

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    11. nandhivarman Says:
    Posted on November 3rd, 2007

    As a true democrat I have kept others comments for public scrutiny and to compare whether they have answered the points raised in my debate. Instead of refuting the arguments, they have stooped to the leval of changing my name, which falls under my individual right or my parental right. Even there the meaning of bull is Kaalai and not Erumai,hatred had blinded them.I am not a Vice Chancellor as someone says, a Vice Chancellor had written a book wherein I am mentioned.

    The Tamil book Thee Paravattum is available in book stalls which contains full debate of Aringnar Anna and his opposite side comprising Navalar Somasundara Bharathiar and R.P.Sethu Pillai.It is known fact in their own words they have accepted defeat in the debate over Kambar’s Ramayana.Since I cannot type it in Tamil I left it.People have read my post and the comments. They will judge. After all the so called Rama has found these lawyers who cannot defend him in better way.Nandhivarman III, the Pallava King gave his life for Tamil, hence my name.Indian Constitution had allowed me liberty of free speech which includes propagating atheism and having my right to exist with my name.

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